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That’s an excellent idea for an article – MDL advice.
Checking locations out in advance in critical and can avoid a whole host of issues.
::Wait until they routinely get AI watching all the CCTV all the time. Every time you do anything which could be construed as “suspicious” or out of the ordinary, a report will be sent.
As the cost of surveillance decreases, surveillance will expand. It’s already happened massively in the past few decades (more than most people notice). I can’t see that slowing down.
::I think you’d need to know them somewhat better before you can approach that one. I’m not sure how you’d work it into a casual conversation otherwise.
If anyone can help with that, please let me know.
::I suspect, in most buildings, that CCTV is recorded but not monitored. I would imagine that if no crime/problem is reported to management, that recording will be automatically deleted after a few days (I think the normal maximum is 30 days).
It comes down to, there is CCTV (assuming it’s working) but is anyone going to look at the stored video?
::I haven’t thought of any additions, but I do feel more inclined to add more (if I can think of any!).
::What would everyone think of a “Naked in a Lift” dare on the list?
In one way, it doesn’t sound that daring, BUT it does introduce its own set of challenges.
::THat’s good to hear!
Any sensible reply or contribution (eg photos etc), always help, but asking for advice or asking a question tends to stimulate more people into replying. More people replying on more topics would probably be the biggest help so it catches the interest of the widest spread of people.
Ultimately, we need to get enough activity going that it gets more people visiting more frequently. It’s a matter of getting current members back into the habit of visiting at least once per day. That gets replies and other interaction going faster. Until a few weeks ago, there often wasn’t much point visiting 2-4 times per day and nothing would have changed. In the same way, if you posted anything there would often be no reply for hours.
It’s all a matter of momentum.
::For the past 4 days, I haven’t checked it once and been the only one on the site. Sometimes it has been just me and one other but there have been many instances where there have been 3-5 others online. The server stats confirm that visitors, especially registered ones, are here more often.
Here’s hoping that is the start of an ongoing improvement! Keep it up, everyone!
::To be honest, I would not promote that as a wise move. It’s a huge grey area, obviously, but it could make photos MUCH more searchable by Google etc.
::Sorry, I ran out of time yesterday. Something important came up but I’m hoping to get all 5 photos (not just yours!) added today.
::I can add a form like the one on the old site, but it’s a LOT of work and persuading anyone to fill it in is bordering on futile. I tried for a while on the old site after we’d moved over to Patreon and the success rate was less than 2%.
::There’s no way of doing it when using Patreon for signups. Patreon’s system completely bypasses the profile form. It’s annoying but Patreon has saved us from SO many spam signups it’s been a massive help.
::I’ve tried Pollo 2.0 and Pollo 2.5 (both ones I’d used many times before). Both consistently resist nudity for me. They just give me a warning and refund my credits.
::I’ve tried a variety of nude photos (or lightly dressed) and any nudity in the input or output is being flagged up and the points refunded.
Which model are you using?
::I know the US is much more restrictive on nudity. That’s why the notes about not breaking your local laws on the MDL list etc.
::I know these have faced mixed responses but I’m going to keep posting them until they’re all used up. They were fun to create, especially the humorous clip and I’m sure it would have been amazing to create much longer clips with full nudity had that been financially viable.
::No rain here Sunday and today (Monday) but the wind is cool. The only problem really is that the grass has dried out now so my wife expects me to get the lawnmower out.
::Sorry for the delay but I had to research and install a replacement gallery system (as the old NextGen gallery plugin has never been fixed). The first photoset is now up for age-verified patrons here.
::I can’t believe we’re back into coats (for the cold as much as the heavy rain). We’re well into June and getting weather more suited to the start of April. I can see why they’ve stopped predicting that this summer will be a hot one.
Activity is still slow, but I should be around more for the next few days so I’ll try to get the momentum going a bit. Part of this will include posting more bonus content.
::I’ll try to get something posted tomorrow content-wise. Not sure what it will be, but Friday is a relatively free day for me.
::For fairness, I should point out that nudity is legal on UK beaches, and there are many nude resorts here too.
::It would be a fantastic achievement. I’m guessing 3 men and 3 women would make it worthwhile. Locations have to be scouted in advance, so that complicates things a little. I can think of a few suitable general locations. We’d also need a 7-seater (at least) or a minibus. I’d probably need some kind of assistant given the much less controlled environment.
::It’s hard enough to organise a group in the UK. Most beaches in France are clothing optional, but start waving a camera around and you become very unwelcome very quickly. I can’t comment on Spain as I haven’t been there in decades.
I struggle to persuade people to travel a few tens of miles, let alone hundreds (I’ve genuinely had people as me if we can do an experiment session in their house!). In my experience, most people want to fit an experiment session in a day off work or sometimes just a morning, something they can keep lowkey and away from their friends and family. Going abroad for a few days is much harder. Persuading women (who tend to be much more wary of experiment sessions anyway) to travel abroad with a group they don’t know would be a serious challenge.
I don’t understand the “sense of violence” idea. Am I missing something there?
::I could do that. I think my main worry is regulars on this site complaining that one or the other (or both) are just not appropriate to the subject of this community.
::We’re back up to just over 50% now, but things are still going slowly.
I definitely believe more content for patrons is the way to go. And more posts on our Patreon page too.
::Lol, would be nice if it did. I still need to find something that does.
Maybe the temperature drop and heavy rain will drive more people inside and lead to more interaction?
::Sorry, I meant here on the site. The content would have to be in the Patreon-controlled area to influence new Patreon sign-ups.
::I’m guessing the easing back of the temperatures makes it safer/more comfortable to get outside naked now?
::They started up again today. It doesn’t matter how many attempt they make to crack a password when the username used doesn’t exist!
::I do get a little cheesed off by this “Hottest day of the year recorded/predicted” style headlines. I don’t know if the news people don’t understand seasons but as we leave the winter and head into the summer there is a general trend of getting warmer.
We never see “Coldest day of the year recorded” in early January!
::It’s clearly getting warmer. Peak of 23C today!
Anyone getting naked outdoors this weekend?
::Looking good!
We were predicted to have 21C here in Wales but my outdoor thermometer only reached 19C (still better than yesterday!).
::It’s just not the weather for it. I’ll believe the hot bank holiday weekend when it arrives. The last “heatwave” they predicted a couple of weeks ago didn’t happen.
It’s rained all day today and it’s SO cold!
::Well, it seems the ongoing attack went mad overnight (4x increase in password attempts) and then stopped in the early hours. Hopefully they’ve given up now.
::Thank you. I certainly feel better for having a little break.
Things certainly quietened down around here. Now I need to get some good momentum going.
::The “attack” has been going on for 3 days now, just at a low level so I don’t believe we’ve suffered any service issues. The security systems have blocked a LOT of IP addresses and the attacker seems to be going after two usernames that don’t exist. That’s going to make it hard to brute force a login.
::Things like this and the Master Dare List are usually completely ignored by female community members.
::I think I might take a few days off. Social media has been bad recently (why are people SO agressive?), Teams has been awful, life’s been complicated, we’ve lost a lot of subscribers, I’ve still got months of recovery to go, and I’m generally feeling under attack from all sides.
::Not enough female members, obviously, but I have to ask in case it encourages more women to sign up.
::I’m seeing three registered female members active in the past couple of days. I can’t see the sex of non-members visiting the site, but even if they make up 5%, that’s another few dozen.
::Sadly, in most cases, they e-mail/message me from accounts unrelated to accounts here on NE.
It’s not much fun checking my e-mail in the morning to find people telling me to eff off or threatening to report me to the FBI.
::I have to admit, I’ve never even heard of “DKIM” before. I’ve followed the help on the host website and have apparently set it up now. Let’s see if it makes any difference.
I still only get notifications from my own posts, no-one elses.
::Now Grok has locked down (no freebies) and Qwen has deteriorated in quality (especially in terms of understanding prompts), I don’t think it’s possible to keep producing these videos with sound until I come up with some way of funding it.
::I don’t really have server space for that. Most of the videos and photos I receive have to be heavily compressed before I put them up on the server. Also it would mean adding yet another plugin to the site.
::Could be. The only e-mail notifications I get from the site are for my own posts. I never get them for other people. And it does matter if I’m subcribed to a topic or not.
::Having given it a little more thought, I don’t think having another site is a good idea. I’m already spread too thin and maintenance and updating of yet another site is just too much.
For now, I’ll stick with the existing two pages dedicated to the generated videos and tend to keep them off the rest of the site (apart from the intro video obviously).
::I have enough work to do without having to get another file converter and do conversions. I should specify jpegs in the requirements.
::It’s not just you, Kate (@patreon_47443057). I’ve had a few people (probably 15-20) complain they get no e-mails from the site. It was a massive pain when registration was done on the site as new members had to click on an e-mail link. That doesn’t work if you don’t receive the e-mail. Doing it via Patreon has solved that problem for me.
::I’m definitely keeping the forums as the core of the community.
Does anyone remember the groups system (instead of forums) we had when this community first started?
::Ah, having had a much more detailed look. What you’ve sent is a file-format neither I nor my laptop recognise as images. (.heic files?)
Could you please send .jpg or .png files instead?
My photo software can’t even load .heic files to convert them to another format.
::It’s not just you. A huge number of e-mail services seem to routinely take emails from NE as mass spam, so they filter them before they get to your inbox/spam folder.
::1,2,3 and 21 were not there. I got broken links for those. Sorry, in all the page building, I forgot to message you about those.
::Two more participants in the results table now.
Will anyone achieve a 100% completion rate?
::I think the women visiting the site are not here to see naked men. I think many (not all, obviously) are here to explore the fantasy of being naked. Most don’t want to do any more than fantasise. I’ve spoken to dozens of them over the years and it’s pretty much universal that too much male nudity puts them off (some have described it as scary) and makes them feel unwelcome.
I haven’t spoken to a single woman here who came to see men naked.
Also, watching a male striptease is substantially different to seeing lots of photos of naked men.
::I’ve measured it repeatedly across 3 incarnations of the site. An increase in male nudity causes a dive in visitors, and also causes existing regulars to leave.
::Also, naked women are simply more popular on the site. I’ve been told there are two psychological reasons for this:
1) Men prefer to see naked women rather than naked men.
2) Women prefer to see themselves in the situation, so a naked woman is easier to work with for that.
Many reports from women over the years confirm that women don’t have the same level of interest in naked men that men have in naked women.
::Two chicken-like creatures produced a chicken egg. Although if you wanted to differentiate between the chicken-like creatures and the resultant chicken, you’d be hard-pressed to do that.
::The videos were good on social networks (and Patreon) for generating visitors to the site. They certainly also got a lot of views on this site, but didn’t trigger the comments etc. I was hoping for. I’ve tried to keep them on-topic and entertaining (funny, thought-provoking, etc.), but now Grok has begun charging an insane amount, some others have gone and I’m not currently buying credits on any of them, producing videos longer than around 6 seconds isn’t practical.
Maybe I should have grouped them by topic and asked a question with each post to get some discussion going? (Not sure how the purely humorous ones would fit with that?)
::I just don’t have the credits to get naked men. Currently I’m producing around 3 videos per day, that gives me 1 suitable video (ie good enough quality) every 1-2 days. Male nudity has a much lower hit rate.
Breast size (rather like pubic hair) is VERY difficult to control. Mostly the AIs ignore you. The default seems to be large-breasted white women with almost no pubic hair. I use the term “average-looking” a lot to stop the usual super-model faces they like to create.
::A few people have complained that they are not appropriate to this site and that they don’t like computer-generated content. Given the relatively tiny amount of feedback I’ve had, the complaints have made up more than half the feedback so far.
::I’m assuming, if there were any faulty links, they would have been found by now. I think I checked everything, but it’s hard to be absolutely sure.
::Let’s hope having a fully working results table will encourage some more people to get involved and try out the dares.
::I miss creating those videos. They were fun.
I’m wondering if it would be possible in future to create another website which features the videos and sends some of the generated traffic back here?
::Sorry for the delay here. I’ve been working on the Master Dare List results pages, so I haven’t given this much thought. The MDL is finished now, so hopefully my brain will be a little more creative soon.
There much be other useful and practical resources we can include on the site.
::I’m pleased to announce that everything (I think!) has been transferred to the Master Dare List. If I’ve missed anyone or any photos, please let me know.
The system seems to work quite well. The one place it does fall down is when we add more dares to the list, I will have to modify every single results page to match. That could take a while.
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