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Now Grok has locked down (no freebies) and Qwen has deteriorated in quality (especially in terms of understanding prompts), I don’t think it’s possible to keep producing these videos with sound until I come up with some way of funding it.
I’ll take that as a no!
Cool. Got them this time.
I don’t have a spam folder, they just didn’t arrive.
I don’t really have server space for that. Most of the videos and photos I receive have to be heavily compressed before I put them up on the server. Also it would mean adding yet another plugin to the site.
You’ll all have to wait until I think of something.
Er… haven’t received any.
Has everyone seen the generated video section (2 pages)?
Could be. The only e-mail notifications I get from the site are for my own posts. I never get them for other people. And it does matter if I’m subcribed to a topic or not.
Having given it a little more thought, I don’t think having another site is a good idea. I’m already spread too thin and maintenance and updating of yet another site is just too much.
For now, I’ll stick with the existing two pages dedicated to the generated videos and tend to keep them off the rest of the site (apart from the intro video obviously).
I have enough work to do without having to get another file converter and do conversions. I should specify jpegs in the requirements.
It’s not just you, Kate (@patreon_47443057). I’ve had a few people (probably 15-20) complain they get no e-mails from the site. It was a massive pain when registration was done on the site as new members had to click on an e-mail link. That doesn’t work if you don’t receive the e-mail. Doing it via Patreon has solved that problem for me.
I’m definitely keeping the forums as the core of the community.
Does anyone remember the groups system (instead of forums) we had when this community first started?
Ah, having had a much more detailed look. What you’ve sent is a file-format neither I nor my laptop recognise as images. (.heic files?)
Could you please send .jpg or .png files instead?
My photo software can’t even load .heic files to convert them to another format.
It’s not just you. A huge number of e-mail services seem to routinely take emails from NE as mass spam, so they filter them before they get to your inbox/spam folder.
1,2,3 and 21 were not there. I got broken links for those. Sorry, in all the page building, I forgot to message you about those.
I think the women visiting the site are not here to see naked men. I think many (not all, obviously) are here to explore the fantasy of being naked. Most don’t want to do any more than fantasise. I’ve spoken to dozens of them over the years and it’s pretty much universal that too much male nudity puts them off (some have described it as scary) and makes them feel unwelcome.
I haven’t spoken to a single woman here who came to see men naked.
Also, watching a male striptease is substantially different to seeing lots of photos of naked men.
I’ve measured it repeatedly across 3 incarnations of the site. An increase in male nudity causes a dive in visitors, and also causes existing regulars to leave.
I should do a poll on this issue, shouldn’t I?
Also, naked women are simply more popular on the site. I’ve been told there are two psychological reasons for this:
1) Men prefer to see naked women rather than naked men.
2) Women prefer to see themselves in the situation, so a naked woman is easier to work with for that.
Many reports from women over the years confirm that women don’t have the same level of interest in naked men that men have in naked women.
Two chicken-like creatures produced a chicken egg. Although if you wanted to differentiate between the chicken-like creatures and the resultant chicken, you’d be hard-pressed to do that.
I’ve got the nagging feeling that I’m missed some photo submissions for the MDL…
The videos were good on social networks (and Patreon) for generating visitors to the site. They certainly also got a lot of views on this site, but didn’t trigger the comments etc. I was hoping for. I’ve tried to keep them on-topic and entertaining (funny, thought-provoking, etc.), but now Grok has begun charging an insane amount, some others have gone and I’m not currently buying credits on any of them, producing videos longer than around 6 seconds isn’t practical.
Maybe I should have grouped them by topic and asked a question with each post to get some discussion going? (Not sure how the purely humorous ones would fit with that?)
I just don’t have the credits to get naked men. Currently I’m producing around 3 videos per day, that gives me 1 suitable video (ie good enough quality) every 1-2 days. Male nudity has a much lower hit rate.
Breast size (rather like pubic hair) is VERY difficult to control. Mostly the AIs ignore you. The default seems to be large-breasted white women with almost no pubic hair. I use the term “average-looking” a lot to stop the usual super-model faces they like to create.
A few people have complained that they are not appropriate to this site and that they don’t like computer-generated content. Given the relatively tiny amount of feedback I’ve had, the complaints have made up more than half the feedback so far.
Would anyone be interested in such a site?
I’m assuming, if there were any faulty links, they would have been found by now. I think I checked everything, but it’s hard to be absolutely sure.
Let’s hope having a fully working results table will encourage some more people to get involved and try out the dares.
I miss creating those videos. They were fun.
I’m wondering if it would be possible in future to create another website which features the videos and sends some of the generated traffic back here?
Sorry for the delay here. I’ve been working on the Master Dare List results pages, so I haven’t given this much thought. The MDL is finished now, so hopefully my brain will be a little more creative soon.
There much be other useful and practical resources we can include on the site.
I’m pleased to announce that everything (I think!) has been transferred to the Master Dare List. If I’ve missed anyone or any photos, please let me know.
The system seems to work quite well. The one place it does fall down is when we add more dares to the list, I will have to modify every single results page to match. That could take a while.
7 participants done, so far. Let me know if you find any broken links. Thanks.
Thank you. I’m pleased you’re going to give more dares ago. Hopefully it will help encourage other people to take part too!
I’m finding most mornings when I check into the community, I see 1 or 2 other people also online. Thinking back to earlier this year, I was often the only one here at 8-9am (UK).
Also, we are clearly forming a group of regulars, which is great to see.
Thank you. I just wish I had more time to work on it.
I’m most of the way through my recovery time now, so very much getting back up to speed (which really helps). When I’m finally taken off all the medication, I hope the on-going brain fog will go away too.
The top three participants on the results table now have working (I hope!) results pages. Things should accelerate as I work down the list as there are fewer photos to transfer and links to set up for each.
The pattern seems to be: a bot/person finds a crack in the security and creates a bunch of users, assuming that at some point that crack will be sealed. They won’t draw attention yet as that will encourage the security problem to be addressed. Instead, they hope the new accounts will blend in. Then, slowly over time, they can use those accounts to post adverts or scam inside the site. Delete one account and there are others waiting dormant.
Our advantage is that being a small site, the sudden surge of new accounts usually gets noticed.
I deleted the 11 “members” who signed up yesterday, all on the same e-mail domain. Of the 8 I saw online, 4 were at least people I already knew from the site (so not spammers).
Yes, either start a new thread or continue existing conversations (of which there are many!). We used to have a live chat feature (in the bottom right corner of the site) but that was a total flop.
The forums are supposed to be the centre of interactions on the site, but obviously there are pages and blog posts where you can comment to. I’d only recommend DMs with people you already know from other interactions.
No complaints, no technical problems. I’d rate that as a success 🙂
It’s eight users now! WOW.
Okay, let’s drop that idea then.
I’m looking for what resources might be interesting or useful to members on this site.
That’s precisely what I was attempting to find out!! 🙂
Regular visitors may notice that the standard 3 forums has just reduced to 2. Hopefully this will focus activity in a smaller area and make it easier to work out which forum to post in.
The number of visitors has been increasing steadily for the past two months. I haven’t seen any sudden spikes but any efforts to draw more people to our community are incredibly welcome. Thanks!
It would be good to get another competition going but we need to get some female participation AND I need to find an easier way to run it without causing me 2+ weeks of heavy workload.
YouTube so rarely embeds nicely.
Probably yes, but I can’t claim to have seen more than 1% of the movies out there. And I mean mainstream cinema releases, not pornos.
If you have a Windows account or a Microsoft account, you already have a Teams account. I’m not suggesting DMs for login or signup problems. That’s what I use Teams for.
I’m trying to avoid adding any more plugins to the site. Ideally I want to reduce them.
Can you see the age-verified forums (ie 5 forums instead of the default 3)?
Cool. Now I need to work through and build all the other pages.
Yes. I can only show nudity in the age-verified parts of the site.
Thank you 🙂
No. It would need to be inside the age-verified section, obviously, but I think it could be done.
However, I agree, there probably isn’t enough interest.
I’m sure a lot of us would love to see that.
I’ve been asking if it’s worth it for a long time now. I still keep going though.
Every time the law changes here in the UK in a way that affects this site, it’s always negative. It’s depressing. We keep adapting and complying but I fear it’s only a matter of time before the government squashes us completely. There are rumours they plan to ban VPNs or add some sort of mandatory ID requirement for them. I suspect that will kill the online adult industry in the UK (we might see physical media make a return!).
That’s kind of my feeling on the matter but I have been wrong before (many times before!).
That would depend on if we are going to do another Vote-Off.
I’m already building the pages.
I’ve just tried visiting on my mobile and it seems the site works MUCH better in landscape:
The first adjustment I’d make is to decrease the columns from 3 to 2.
Does Android not do the double-click focus thing (where you double-click on a column and the browser zooms to make that column screen-width?
Which? The menu issue or the admin bar?
I turned it back on last night. I thought I mentioned it in this thread but my post didn’t appear.
What I find weird is I get the hamburger menu on my mobile phone (in place of the main black bar menu). I only see all the menu drop-downs listed on my laptop. We now seem to get the full-browser menu on mobile devices when there clearly isn’t room for it? When did that stop working?
I’ve changed nothing to do with phones. I’ve got zero controls for that. I’m not aware of any changes in recent theme updates. I think all the theme updates have been bug fixes.
That sounds like the admin bar (a thin bar right across the top of the canvas). The old site had that but I don’t believe the new site has ever had that?? I didn’t enable it as it caused no end of confusion on the old site.
That’s a feature of the theme. Mobile phones are always so zoomed in that there isn’t room for the columns. They’ve usually got the screen resolution, but the webbrowser software will not use it. Mobile web browsers stack the columns with each above the next one.
I only time I use my phone for browsing is when I’m testing the site. Mobile browsers are a disaster – bordering on unusable. The last time I had a good mobile browser was back in 2007 and then the iPhone came out and everything went titsup after that.
I’m not sure. There’s still a profile button (to the left of your username) at the top of the right column. If you don’t have an avatar set up (please do!!) then it would default to the first letter of your username (unless you have a Gravitar profile set up, then it uses that.)
Clicking on it still takes you to your profile.
The messages and updates pane personalised to you has been gone a LONG time bacause it stopped working.
I’ve tried to get quite a few of them to come back (mostly a couple of months after the site moved here) but almost no success at all on that front.
If anyone is in contact with anyone, please encourage them to come back!
Also, I thought it would be an interesting and fun way to raise some points, causes a smile or two and highlight some nudity-related issues.
My fundamental problem is it’s that video content or no video content. The community has had a lot more visitors when I’ve got some videos to post on social media etc. (about 3x). I haven’t posted any for a few weeks now and traffic is way down again.
Just male nudity puts people off the site. Male video content is not popular. Also, too much male-only content puts women off staying here. It’s near impossible to get women to post and, often, when they do they ask me to remove what they’ve posted within a few weeks.
Fundamentally, I don’t have the budget to make this work and I’m not going to get the budget while it’s not working. I don’t know how to get out of that vicious circle…
I think that suggestion could work. My only reservation is that we had something quite similar before the Master Dare List (Weekly Dare Challenge) but it was a lot of work. I used to receive a lot of PMs and e-mails from people demanding to know why the threads had been locked (even though it said at the bottom of each thread), and when they weren’t locked, it was difficult to keep track of all the submissions (and to stop people posting stuff nicked from the web). The MDL was designed to solve the problems suffered by the weekly challenge.
Also, I’m not here consistently. Most days I’m around several times in the day, but I occasionally have weeks when I’ve got no time available. If we did it in some way where the weeks don’t have to be consecutive, that could work?
I’ve had two days now of a zero limit (ie not even one picture generation) on Grok. With the two others I use too, I’m getting enough credits to produce 4 videos per day, in total. With that limit, I’ll struggle to get one finished video per day out of it.
With at best unclear levels of interest in the results, it was fun while it lasted, but I can’t see a future in these. I was looking forward to being to produce videos of many and varied nudity-including situations. One idea was to create a second Patreon account for just the videos but I just don’t think enough people are interested for such a channel to be viable (the cost would far outweigh the turnover).
I’m not sure what’s changed but in the past two days, I’ve been finding that the generation limits on almost all the generators has drastically dropped. Instead of getting 25-40 (ish) goes per day, I’m lucky to get 3 now. Grok is only allowing me to do ONE per day.
Developing new techniques and better output is going to go REALLY slowly while that’s in place. Maybe I’ve hit some monthly limit as well as the daily limits, but it’s also possible they’ve all cut the freebies they offer permanently.
I’ve got a few clip videos in reserve but producing new ones isn’t really viable now.
The old site had many regulars who interacted frequently. There were hundreds of other visitors, but it had a strong core of frequent posters. Our current site gets nearly as many “other” visitors but has been less effective at persuading people to sign up for a free account. However, the worst thing is we’ve lost the majority of the posting regulars.
Some of that is the age-verification, but many left before that was introduced.
It wasn’t all that long ago (before the last site revamp) that we had 12 forums.
The links are not active yet. I’ve got about 20 pages to create it was only in the past 2 days that we’ve got the age-restriction system working again. Until then, I didn’t even know if it was possible. There is a message at the top of the page saying that not all the links work yet.
I’m away for the majority of this weekend and next week is really busy. I reckon I’ve got about 4-5 full days of solid work to build all the necessary pages and then some more time to check and test everything thoroughly. For some participants, I’ve got 30 photos to post and half of those will need censoring.
I still haven’t had replies from many of the participants regarding permission to post their results. What you see on the table so far is just those who have replied, so far.
I’ve just been looking through some of the video clips which didn’t go so well. Most were just junk and didn’t get saved, but a few are hilarious and I kept them. Having seen the collection all at once, it’s great fun. I might do a video of all those clips too, like a sort of bloopers real.
And have I missed any age-verified members in the conversion to the new setup?
It really looks like this finally works properly. Thanks, everyone. It’s much more thorough than just me testing it.
There are also a couple more NSFW ones too. It’s really hard to measure the level of interest in any of these.
That is great to hear. Thanks for checking. 🙂
No. Haven’t had time to work on it. I also haven’t worked on any clips this week. I’ve got a few “Flicking Channels” videos in reserve but there hasn’t been huge demand for them. Comedy has been more prevalent in the most recent ones but I haven’t put them up yet.
I’m getting the feeling that to progress further (done around 200 successful clips now – and no I haven’t posted them all). I think to progress further I need higher-resolution generation and access to unmoderated nudity. I have no way to know how popular that would be??
Well they’re both faulty. The NSFW videos page doesn’t work. The “What’s the problem…” page isn’t set up properly and isn’t age-verified. If I turn age verification on for it, it instantly develops the same issue as the videos page. The system used to work, the only clash I got before was where I wanted age-verified and patron-only at the same time.
To make things more fun, I’m quite busy this week so I don’t have much time to work on this.
The Patreon plugin works fine for pages but I don’t use it for age verification. I don’t know how I could do that. The age verification is done manually by me. Unless you are added to the verified group, you can’t see the age-restricted content. Essentially the two systems are pretty much separate.
Patreon only allows restricting by Patreon level (ie fee paid). I don’t think they know your age or give me access to that data (which they probably don’t have themselves). I’ve never been aged-checked by Patreon.
It seems the age-verification protection only works in the forums. I can’t get it to work with pages.
It was discussed but I haven’t taken anything away. Also, since we’ve added censored photos as an option there’s not so much reason not to publish (face can still be censored as before).
I get “not authorised” errors when I try to view age-verified pages. The forums work fine.
I haven’t set up any of the MDL links yet, until I get the age-verification working properly.
Don’t forget your photos only get published if you give permission. You can still take part without publishing. Or you can have ONLY censored published, or ONLY uncensored published. It’s entirely up to you.
The main results page is essentially active now but I’m not ready with the photos. The nude photos will be in the age-verified area but I’m still undecided on putting censored versions in the public area.
One more thing, is humour a good thing for this? (like the failed cartwheel)
I don’t know if it makes it more memorable and engaging or just detracts from the key message?
Is the “Naked” pronunciation problem getting better in more recent videos?
That’s fair enough. I’m certainly not making any demands. This is all voluntary.
Not really. That’s why I’m focusing my efforts on getting people to visit the site.
If any of you know anyone who was on the old MDL, please contact them. Most of the people who didn’t make it from the old MDL to the new one didn’t reply to any of my messages/e-mails.
