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No, I meant like the MDL, a sort of list of sports to do nude, not a section in the forums.
::I wonder if a catch-all naked sport dare would work best?
Or maybe sport should be another part of the site in its own right?
::I’m trying to avoid requiring videos (storage limitations). I thought doors-shut is a little more daring as you don’t know if someone has arrived outside. With the doors open, you could just run in, take the photo and leave. Doors-shut is more of a commitment.
::Because the site is in the UK, I have to age check everyone. It’s like running a pub, they still age-check Americans. I’m assuming that Patreon has to comply in the same way, but I don’t know. That’s why I’m trying to find out what the set up is there.
::I guess the question all of this raises is: If Patreon are age-checking my Patreon page, do I need to do age-verification myself?
It would certainly make it easier if Patreon were doing it.
::How many of you would be interested in sending in a “Naked by a Statue” photo?
Also, how many want to send a “Naked in a Lift” photo?
::Is With a Statue too similar to the existing “Naked by a Traffic Light”? It’s kind of just another naked by a thing. The traffic light one takes you to a place. I’ve been wondering if “In front of a supermarket” and “Outside a pub or bar” are too similar to each other?
::They can’t be anything other than optional fields. As new signups don’t take place on the site, I get no control over that.
::That’s three people adding dares in the last two days. And I know there are more photos to come!
::More updates to the MDL results table and MORE to come imminently!
It’s great to see it so active. And we finally have a decent amount of female participation.
::To add more detail. Between 12th April and 19th April, daily traffic to the NE page on Patreon collapsed from 2100+ (sometimes much higher) to around 400-500 visits per week. It hasn’t gone back up. Something changed…
::Did a couple of age verifications yesterday (Tuesday) but missed a couple of people. Today, however, none at all. Haven’t seen anyone and I’ve been here all morning.
::Patreon has never told me anything. Nothing on my account (from my view via a VPN) says NSFW.
What I noticed first was a 2/3rds sudden and ongoing drop in traffic to the Patreon page a couple of weeks ago. That prompted me to investigate further.
I’m not aware of any NSFW content in the chats (I’ve always deleted that ASAP).
Also, when I visit it from the UK, no age verification.
::Well that was a weird one. The first person I’ve age-verified today didn’t want to join NE at all (and had never heard of it!). That was a waste of time.
That’s the first time I’ve age-verified someone who had no interest in being verified or joining the community.
::It just says IP6 not supported for me.
Also, whether or not my account has been changed to NSFW doesn’t vary by country. The way Patreon reacts to the status will change by visitor location, but that doesn’t change the account status.
::I was just using the free VPN in Opera. It doesn’t tell me which state it uses. But it does do the same when I set it to Europe.
::I’ve never set my Patreon account to NSFW myself because I’ve been very careful to not post any NSFW content there, and have followed their rules in detail.
If my account is now NSFW, I’m worried as I cannot comply with their NSFW rules. Also, it probably accounts for the fall in new patrons as Patreon will restrict showing the account to a much smaller group.
::Because of the nudity in the illustration, the article is behind the age-verification wall.
::Thank you. In a way, I feel like I’m overdue for some good look, but considering I survived my surgery back in November, I really can’t complain. I’m just happy to still be here.
::Years ago, I wondered about dividing the country into regions and then getting everyone to say which one they are in so we could organise some meetups, experiments etc., but it quickly turned out everyone has hugely different distances they are willing to travel.
Later I added location (nearest town I believe) to profiles so everyone would be able to get some idea of house close people are but that met with limited success. Also, had some people from the US upset that I was not willing to run experiment sessions in the US.
I’m still looking for a solution to the meeting up thing but not found one yet.
::That’s an excellent idea for an article – MDL advice.
Checking locations out in advance in critical and can avoid a whole host of issues.
::Wait until they routinely get AI watching all the CCTV all the time. Every time you do anything which could be construed as “suspicious” or out of the ordinary, a report will be sent.
As the cost of surveillance decreases, surveillance will expand. It’s already happened massively in the past few decades (more than most people notice). I can’t see that slowing down.
::I think you’d need to know them somewhat better before you can approach that one. I’m not sure how you’d work it into a casual conversation otherwise.
If anyone can help with that, please let me know.
::I suspect, in most buildings, that CCTV is recorded but not monitored. I would imagine that if no crime/problem is reported to management, that recording will be automatically deleted after a few days (I think the normal maximum is 30 days).
It comes down to, there is CCTV (assuming it’s working) but is anyone going to look at the stored video?
::I haven’t thought of any additions, but I do feel more inclined to add more (if I can think of any!).
::What would everyone think of a “Naked in a Lift” dare on the list?
In one way, it doesn’t sound that daring, BUT it does introduce its own set of challenges.
::THat’s good to hear!
Any sensible reply or contribution (eg photos etc), always help, but asking for advice or asking a question tends to stimulate more people into replying. More people replying on more topics would probably be the biggest help so it catches the interest of the widest spread of people.
Ultimately, we need to get enough activity going that it gets more people visiting more frequently. It’s a matter of getting current members back into the habit of visiting at least once per day. That gets replies and other interaction going faster. Until a few weeks ago, there often wasn’t much point visiting 2-4 times per day and nothing would have changed. In the same way, if you posted anything there would often be no reply for hours.
It’s all a matter of momentum.
::For the past 4 days, I haven’t checked it once and been the only one on the site. Sometimes it has been just me and one other but there have been many instances where there have been 3-5 others online. The server stats confirm that visitors, especially registered ones, are here more often.
Here’s hoping that is the start of an ongoing improvement! Keep it up, everyone!
::To be honest, I would not promote that as a wise move. It’s a huge grey area, obviously, but it could make photos MUCH more searchable by Google etc.
::Sorry, I ran out of time yesterday. Something important came up but I’m hoping to get all 5 photos (not just yours!) added today.
::I can add a form like the one on the old site, but it’s a LOT of work and persuading anyone to fill it in is bordering on futile. I tried for a while on the old site after we’d moved over to Patreon and the success rate was less than 2%.
::There’s no way of doing it when using Patreon for signups. Patreon’s system completely bypasses the profile form. It’s annoying but Patreon has saved us from SO many spam signups it’s been a massive help.
::I’ve tried Pollo 2.0 and Pollo 2.5 (both ones I’d used many times before). Both consistently resist nudity for me. They just give me a warning and refund my credits.
::I’ve tried a variety of nude photos (or lightly dressed) and any nudity in the input or output is being flagged up and the points refunded.
Which model are you using?
::I know the US is much more restrictive on nudity. That’s why the notes about not breaking your local laws on the MDL list etc.
::I know these have faced mixed responses but I’m going to keep posting them until they’re all used up. They were fun to create, especially the humorous clip and I’m sure it would have been amazing to create much longer clips with full nudity had that been financially viable.
::No rain here Sunday and today (Monday) but the wind is cool. The only problem really is that the grass has dried out now so my wife expects me to get the lawnmower out.
::Sorry for the delay but I had to research and install a replacement gallery system (as the old NextGen gallery plugin has never been fixed). The first photoset is now up for age-verified patrons here.
::I can’t believe we’re back into coats (for the cold as much as the heavy rain). We’re well into June and getting weather more suited to the start of April. I can see why they’ve stopped predicting that this summer will be a hot one.
Activity is still slow, but I should be around more for the next few days so I’ll try to get the momentum going a bit. Part of this will include posting more bonus content.
::I’ll try to get something posted tomorrow content-wise. Not sure what it will be, but Friday is a relatively free day for me.
::For fairness, I should point out that nudity is legal on UK beaches, and there are many nude resorts here too.
::It would be a fantastic achievement. I’m guessing 3 men and 3 women would make it worthwhile. Locations have to be scouted in advance, so that complicates things a little. I can think of a few suitable general locations. We’d also need a 7-seater (at least) or a minibus. I’d probably need some kind of assistant given the much less controlled environment.
::It’s hard enough to organise a group in the UK. Most beaches in France are clothing optional, but start waving a camera around and you become very unwelcome very quickly. I can’t comment on Spain as I haven’t been there in decades.
I struggle to persuade people to travel a few tens of miles, let alone hundreds (I’ve genuinely had people as me if we can do an experiment session in their house!). In my experience, most people want to fit an experiment session in a day off work or sometimes just a morning, something they can keep lowkey and away from their friends and family. Going abroad for a few days is much harder. Persuading women (who tend to be much more wary of experiment sessions anyway) to travel abroad with a group they don’t know would be a serious challenge.
I don’t understand the “sense of violence” idea. Am I missing something there?
::I could do that. I think my main worry is regulars on this site complaining that one or the other (or both) are just not appropriate to the subject of this community.
::We’re back up to just over 50% now, but things are still going slowly.
I definitely believe more content for patrons is the way to go. And more posts on our Patreon page too.
::Lol, would be nice if it did. I still need to find something that does.
Maybe the temperature drop and heavy rain will drive more people inside and lead to more interaction?
::Sorry, I meant here on the site. The content would have to be in the Patreon-controlled area to influence new Patreon sign-ups.
::I’m guessing the easing back of the temperatures makes it safer/more comfortable to get outside naked now?
::They started up again today. It doesn’t matter how many attempt they make to crack a password when the username used doesn’t exist!
::I do get a little cheesed off by this “Hottest day of the year recorded/predicted” style headlines. I don’t know if the news people don’t understand seasons but as we leave the winter and head into the summer there is a general trend of getting warmer.
We never see “Coldest day of the year recorded” in early January!
::It’s clearly getting warmer. Peak of 23C today!
Anyone getting naked outdoors this weekend?
::Looking good!
We were predicted to have 21C here in Wales but my outdoor thermometer only reached 19C (still better than yesterday!).
::It’s just not the weather for it. I’ll believe the hot bank holiday weekend when it arrives. The last “heatwave” they predicted a couple of weeks ago didn’t happen.
It’s rained all day today and it’s SO cold!
::Well, it seems the ongoing attack went mad overnight (4x increase in password attempts) and then stopped in the early hours. Hopefully they’ve given up now.
::Thank you. I certainly feel better for having a little break.
Things certainly quietened down around here. Now I need to get some good momentum going.
::The “attack” has been going on for 3 days now, just at a low level so I don’t believe we’ve suffered any service issues. The security systems have blocked a LOT of IP addresses and the attacker seems to be going after two usernames that don’t exist. That’s going to make it hard to brute force a login.
::Things like this and the Master Dare List are usually completely ignored by female community members.
::I think I might take a few days off. Social media has been bad recently (why are people SO agressive?), Teams has been awful, life’s been complicated, we’ve lost a lot of subscribers, I’ve still got months of recovery to go, and I’m generally feeling under attack from all sides.
::Not enough female members, obviously, but I have to ask in case it encourages more women to sign up.
::I’m seeing three registered female members active in the past couple of days. I can’t see the sex of non-members visiting the site, but even if they make up 5%, that’s another few dozen.
::Sadly, in most cases, they e-mail/message me from accounts unrelated to accounts here on NE.
It’s not much fun checking my e-mail in the morning to find people telling me to eff off or threatening to report me to the FBI.
::I have to admit, I’ve never even heard of “DKIM” before. I’ve followed the help on the host website and have apparently set it up now. Let’s see if it makes any difference.
I still only get notifications from my own posts, no-one elses.
::Now Grok has locked down (no freebies) and Qwen has deteriorated in quality (especially in terms of understanding prompts), I don’t think it’s possible to keep producing these videos with sound until I come up with some way of funding it.
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