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It’s resolved. Just stopped happening after around 4 hours. Some of my friends had the same problem, so I think it was an issue at Teams.
I don’t use the app, I just use a web browser.
::I’d be interested to hear why Youtube still has a prominent dislike button. Why did they choose not to follow most other major media sites?
I do find it hilarious when you see a video with many more dislikes than likes.
::From a site operations point of view, it makes it harder to establish what isn’t liked.
Is it just me who thinks it feels a little cultish? I feel alone on this one.
::I’ll have to start moving the bulk of the patron-only content to the new site tomorrow. I ran out of time today.
::True, but I suppose it was aiming to show the balance of votes, not a total. The pro version includes the option to show what percentage is positive and what percentage negative. Now we’ll never know how many people disagree.
::Okay, the down button is gone. I should say I do like the down vote button. It avoids that forced positivity issue. With just the up button, if 10 people like a suggestion and 50 don’t like it, those 50 are forced to either say something negative (not likely if they all have the same/similar objections) or keep quiet, probably giving a false impression. I suppose the only way it can still work is if someone explains why it’s a bad idea and then the other 49 like the objection instead.
::What does everyone else think about the “Dislike” button?
Would “Up Vote”/”Down Vote” be a better combo?
::I’m back in but I still can’t log in with my username/password. I just get a nonsensical error saying that my device is not the correct type to run Teams.
::If the browser cache gets out of sync you either need to wait for it to expire or clear the cache. It can happen to any website.
::This doesn’t hide or negatively affect posts. The votes are just cosmetic for us.
I can remove the down vote button if most people prefer that?
::That sounds like a caching error with your browser. Have you tried a different browser or clearing your cache?
::Until you are age-verified, posts in the age-verified forum won’t appear on the updates and you won’t even be able to see the age-verified forum.
::As the forum appears to be set up properly now, I’m shifting my attention to moving all the nudity-featuring blog posts into the appropriate forums.
::I’d prefer it if they didn’t. Especially outside the age-verified forums as it puts the site in breach of the law. I really don’t want a massive fine.
::If you click “Like” it gains an up vote. If you then click down, it undoes the up vote (ie removes one point) then gives it a down vote (ie removes one point)
::The age-verified forums have photos and videos, and allow uploading by members, but the public forums cannot. This is to comply with the law.
::I’ve started tidying up the blog, but there’s a lot of work left.
Everything is a LOT of work!!
::So, is everyone mostly happy now? I kept the highlighted boxes yellow in colour, and all the others have returned to their usual white text on a black box.
::Sadly there are options to include a timestamp (or “Freshness” they call it) just author name and post content (which doesn’t fit in this context anyway). I can also limit it to specific forums or only threads with/without replies.
For me, it links to the latest post.
::That seems more appropriate for a forum thread than the blog.
Games like that are an interesting idea.
::I don’t think I should have this blog post and the header version too. That will cause confusion.
::There is a bodge I can use to display latest forum posts in a blog post. It’s not ideal but would that do the job?
::If I go with the noticeboard approach, I’ll probably switch off comments on the blog posts.
Regular updates for the blog become borderline impossible if I can’t include most photos or videos. Updates would have to be text only as there’s no way to put the blog in the age-verified area.
::I miss the orange too, but if some people can’t read it, it’s not good enough. I can’t have that.
::It’s hard to meet the attention-grabbing requirement and be friendly too. Aren’t those things mutually exclusive?
::Those boxes are supposed to be attention-grabbing. They should really stand out. That’s why I picked the bright orange colour before. I didn’t expect any problems seeing the text. My laptop has an excellent screen but my external monitor is Pantone certified. The black text on bright orange was perfectly clear on both screens. It was even clearer on my phone but that’s because the pixels are smaller on my phone and the buttons are shown oversized.
::I’ll have to see how things go, and how much interest there is. I’d love to experiment more with the whole area but my hope of getting free credits through a small flow of referrals, hasn’t panned out. It seems no-one else wants to give Pollo a try.
Maybe after August, I’ll (hopefully) be able to afford a proper subscription so I get an amount of credits to work with each month. In the meantime, I’ll create some more examples.
::I shouldn’t really be talking about the colour scheme of the right column boxes here as this thread is about the forum, but it would be good to get more feedback about the yellow colour. Does it work? Can you read it? Does it stand out (ie catch your attention)?
::I’ve had very bad experiences with child themes and CSS is near impossible to set up if you didn’t create the original theme. I find components are never named properly so you can’t separate out what you need.
I’m not getting involved in that. It’s complicated enough as it is without the hair-tearing experience of messing with CSS.
::Gary very kindly volunteered a suitable photo, so here’s a quick example of the sort of thing that can be done. And, before you ask, we can also work with full frontal nudity.
This is a first attempt and very low res as I’m trying to conserve credits. There are glitches but I’m mostly pleased with the result.
::What do you think of the yellow then?
Also, does anyone else have opinions on this? I feel there should be a few more opinions on this…
::That’s a level of control I don’t have. All I can pick is a colour scheme. I cannot choose individual colours (eg change the text on its own).
::The rainbow isn’t good, but I’m waiting for opinions on each of the possible colour options for the highlighted boxes in the right column.
::I’m hoping for some comments soon as the right column looks like a rainbow mess right now.
::Is the orange not considerably brighter than the black on your screen?
If it’s a problem, I’ll need to work out how to recolour all the buttons as they are matched to the orange boxes. I thought it was a nice, clear highlight colour to make certain things easy to see.
::Okay, I have no control over Patron so it’s up to them to comply with the law. I’m not VAT registered so I don’t handle that anyway.
::I can’t just choose colours. I can only choose between preset colour schemes. To elaborate, I cannot change individual colours, just pick a scheme which recolours the entire box.
If bright orange is too dark, I have limited options as that’s middle brightness. I’ve tried blue (same brightness level but different hue). Is that better? Personally I think it clashes.
Actually, I’ve set eight of the right column boxes to different bright colours to show the options. From top to bottom they are Blue, Lime, Crimson, Pink, Teak, Purple, Violet, Green & Purple. Ones I haven’t used yet are: Yellow, Transparent, Red and all the dark colours (brown, charcoal etc.).
::The top?? I’m pretty sure we’ve never done that. It was discussed at least once but I think it was widely agreed that new posts should appear at the bottom of the thread as otherwise it feels backwards or unintuitive.
::It depends how you pay. I believe that via a web browser, it is the original price. If you pay via Android or iOS it costs 30% (I think) more due to extra fees added on top by Google and Apple. The worst thing is, I don’t even get the money from them until ages later. For reasons I don’t understand, Apple holds the money in their account for 75 days before passing it on to Patreon.
My advice would be to always use a laptop or desktop computer to avoid being ripped off.
::This is tricky. One of the reasons I picked orange instead of blue, green or yellow, was that it gave better contrast with the black text. The blue and green were particularly fuzzy for me. Also it needs to be something which tones in with the other colours (orange buttons etc. – which also need to vividly stand out)
::I have 16 colour schemes to choose from for that panel, but it desperately needs to be something that stands out (otherwise people keep asking me to add a pane that’s already there).
Also, I was referring the forum itself. I haven’t changed the right panel colours in a couple of weeks.
::The forums are threaded, so if you reply to a post, your reply should appear under that post. It helps stop the forums from descending into gibberish.
::Patreon gives pretty minimal support for the WordPress plugin so I wouldn’t count on anything.
There are no server issues in the log for this site.
I can’t find anything wrong anywhere. Did anyone else have a problem?
::It could be Patreon but I’ve not heard of any problems at their end. What was the error (ie what did it say)?
::A couple of people have suggested that it would make sense to increase the £3.50 patron price to £4.00. It sort of simplifies it but also means I can just put £4 (ie 2 characters) instead of £3.50 (5 characters).
It would, potentially, help the site cover it’s costs, but only if we don’t lose patrons because the modest price increase.
::No, that you now can’t add them when editing because there’s a 1KB limit on filesize. I can’t get rid of the add option on editing as that’s a bug in the plugin, but I can reduce the filesize limit so much as to render it useless.
::If anyone can tell me how to turn on the “Bin” option, please let me know as it’s just NOT in the options.
::Worst case, you can always ask me to delete a forum post.
Attachments in the age-verified areas are 2MB. Elsewhere they should not be allowed. 512KB is not specified anywhere so I’m not sure where it’s getting that from. The editing dialogue is messed up because the attachments plugin is a mess.
I can’t fix the attachments. It’s an external plugin and it’s rubbish.
::And for some strange reason, it offers me to add an attachment when I edit?
Which should I get rid of, attachments or editing?
If there’s any mechanism for adding attachments in parts of the forum where they are not permitted, the site is dead. The site would become illegal.
::I might have to completely remove the attachment option. It seems turning it off for individual forums doesn’t work.
If attachments continue in the non-verified forums, the whole site will have to go.
::You can edit posts for fifteen minutes after you’ve posted them here. I’ve no idea how long it was on the old site.
::I have no idea why there is a delete button on the old site and not on the new one. There is no option for this I can find.
I and my test user both have a “Bin” link.
::I’m sure that it used to be possible to delete your own post.
I’ve just rechecked. I can’t find any such option. You don’t have “Bin” in the horizontal list of links?
::Attachments are turned off for non-age-verified forums. You should not be able to post attachments here. I don’t have the option when I post here.
::It would be great to hear what people think of videos like this.
Would you like to see more like this?
::Sorry this is taking so long.
You’ll see the menu system is expanding and I’ve added a couple of new panels to the right sidebar. There’s still a frightening amount of stuff to add, but I’m getting through it slowly.
::Sorry, this has been a little delayed. I’ve got a whole set of display widgets (including displaying who is online) which have stopped working.
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