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I need to keep a list for this, but I’ll move both of you over when I build the new results table.
Okay – that’s brave!
No rush. I’m unlikely to have opportunity to do anything for the next week or so anyway. Also, the trial subscription I took out has now expired and my remaining credits went with it 🙁
I’m not having 3 recent posts blocks on the same page. After all the discussion and debate about the other one near the top of the front page, I don’t want to remove that one.
I need to contact every participant first AND sort out some way to integrate the table with the age-verification system, before I can build something. More than half of the participants haven’t come to this new site yet
A lot of them are, I’m transferring a few more every week.
I wanted to post 2 per day, but I just haven’t had time to do that consistently.
Same spec really.
Good lighting, sharp focus, highest resolution you can and, for this one, no clothes.
Any ideas what sort of people you would like to join you in the video? I can’t specify actual people, obviously, but general age, build, sex, clothing etc.
Sounds good!
Has anything changed? I’ve tried modifying the permissions. Hopefully no-one can delete other people’s posts or replies!
The old site is now closed. Don’t worry. I’ve still got the content, but transferring photos/videos is going to take months.
The MDL will be updated tomorrow (or removed if I don’t have time). There won’t be a version behind the age-verification wall for a while as it’s a MASSIVE job. Also, I need permission from all participants to put their photos on the new site (currently the table here links to the old site). The vote-offs are not yet on the new site, so they will be going away, at least temporarily. I haven’t decided on what to do about those. Your lost bet video will be temporarily going away too. Again, don’t yet know what to do with it.
Essentially, I have about 6 months work to do in 2 days.
Comments are different things to posts. Users can delete their own comments but only admins can delete posts. I’ll see if I can change that.
I’m on a laptop so adding a suitable GPU isn’t an option.
The code used for LLMs is madly inefficient right now. We should see 8x improvement once someone optimises it, that combined with processor improvements in the next few years should see impressive speed advances. I’m assuming the next generation of main processors will have GPU-like qualities ready for this sort of processing too.
I can’t find a downloadable one that doesn’t require a discrete graphics card (and/or Linux). It would be good to not need credits to use it.
I’ve always assumed that any photo put online will end up in all the AIs training data. I know a huge number of the photos I’ve put online are copied and posted in MANY places. It’s illegal, but what can I do?
I haven’t tried it recently, but I’ve been told Perchance took a major step backwards in quality last year. I suspected they turned down the processing available for each prompt.
I haven’t found any AIs are any good for writing fiction. You see phrase patterns, odd grammar and poor descriptive word choices, repeated over and over. Any experienced writer will spot them very quickly, and that’s before the continuity errors and poor understanding of physics and hierarchies (He removed his hat, revealing his T-shirt etc.).
All of the ones I’ve tried are better now than last year, BUT there is a storm coming. A lot of the stuff they are learning from is AI generated, so these mistakes and faults are being fed back into the system. This is a feedback loop of junk in the system and I can’t see how it won’t just cause it all to deteriorate again.
In that case, the AI can only be as good as the description. Inaccurate, incomplete or contradicting descriptions and reviews are always going to thwart the desire for accuracy. Just look at some of the reviews on Amazon (and other sites) that make no sense, are wrong or simply fake. An AI has no chance.
Better now?
That’s where companies are jumping on a bandwagon because they don’t want their competitors to leave them behind, but the people at the top do not understand the current limitations of the technology. Also, a lot of tech is using the term AI when it’s nothing like that.
I hate the use of the term AI but what I think of as AI is now called AGI, so I’m just out of date.
In terms of getting what you specify. Some are better than others. A few of the ones which do not permit nudity are very accurate on numbers, genders, ages etc.
The biggest thing is the rate of progress. Give it another 2-3 years and what we’re seeing now will be completely left behind. One thing they really can’t do is write prose. Writing at the level of producing notes or creating an e-mail is pretty good, but when it comes to literature, not even close yet.
Good to hear. Thank you! 🙂
Unless you are super lucky, it takes some human effort to achieve anything with generative AI. Crafting the prompt takes a while (usually a few iterations) and experience helps enormously. Any details you fail to specify may come out as random nonsense. Even when you get the prompt “right”, it might take a few goes before it comes out as you want it to. I wasted most of my free startup credits because I didn’t know what I was doing. I’ve found image=>video MUCH easier to control than text=>video.
I spent a surprising amount of time making my prompts mean the same while being shorter, as there’s a character count cap, so fitting everything you need to say can be tricky. You also need an awareness of how much action or movement can be achieved in the number of seconds you choose to generate.
There’s definitely a skillset to it.
Also, so I’m acutely aware that we are still essentially in the early days of this tech being available to the public. It will get better, and it’s not going away. I think of it like computers replacing typewriters, silent movies progressing to sound, broadcasting’s far-reaching effects on live productions. You don’t have to like the technology, and where it is now may not be the same as where it goes over the next few years, but it’s here and we either get involved or get left behind.
There were discussions in the forums for a week or so before when I began asking for volunteers. Three people showed some interest but Gary was the only volunteer – HE sent me the source photo to be used to make the video. Why would I use someone without consent?? Apart from the moral element there, it would probably upset a long-time and valued member of this community.
There’s no story for the test video. I was just trying out what was possible. With more work and a little imagination, there are all sorts of possibilities. Currently all the AI video sites I’ve seen are limited to 4-10 seconds per video, probably to save on workload but also, the longer the videos run, the more distorted they tend to become. I believe a thirty-second-long video would be incredibly unlikely to remain coherent and not introduce scenery and events which make no sense. Of course, I can splice together a string of 5-10 second generated videos to tell a story of sorts, or at least to explore a scenario.
What you see in that video was the third attempt. In the first, one of the AI-generated characters ran behind Gary and failed to come out the other side. In the next, two of the characters merged into one near the end. There are glitches in the one I published in this thread.
I thought there would be more interest in this. It would have been interesting to explore.
You should still be able to edit your NE account from your profile page. You can’t change your username but you should be able to alter your screen name.
Only having one login system avoids a great deal of confusion, stops users being required to merge two separate accounts into one and completely solves our spammer problem.
The old site had been running on just Patreon signups for nearly a year before I opened this new one.
Might be worth suggesting as a fundraising event? Would certainly attract a lot of media attention and Aldi is a German company and the Germans are generally more open to public nudity than we are in Britain.
“Shopping in the Aldigether”
That would be great, thank you! I’ve installed the plugin and (so far) it doesn’t appear to clash with all the other plugins.
I don’t think it’s possible to post PHP code in a menu?
I can add the login page link to the top but it’s an unbranded page and the link won’t change to show you are logged it (ie. even after you’ve successfully logged it, it will still show “Log In” instead of “Log Out”. In my experience, that adds another big point of confusion.
I’m still looking into it.
Both my account and my Patreon test account stay logged in indefinitely. There’s no settings in patreon for login duration, but WordPress is set to 28 days.
To be honest, I’m on the verge of giving up. I can’t get the age-verification system and Patreon system to work nicely together. The existence of both is confusing for visitors to the site. I’m now having problems with the connection between Patreon and this site. I’ve done SO much work trying to make a layout that works on computers AND on mobile devices but everything seems to be a fudged compromise and causing upset all round.
I’m already way behind schedule and unlikely to finish moving stuff over in time and patrons are deserting the site anyway. There’s no way I can transfer the MDL results before the deadline so I’ll probably end up with hundreds of broken links.
I’m finding it hard to stay positive. Right now I’m working for a tiny fraction of minimum wage. It’s definitely reminded me why, after the last site rebuild, I said I wouldn’t do it again (and that was without a deadline).
I can only really fit the menu OR the updates list at the top. Putting both there messes up the layout.
It shouldn’t log you out. The login should last 28 days.
Good idea, but I have NO idea how to implement that. It’s not an option with the theme.
I need to go through and add some lines of text but with the deadline for closing the old site looming, I’m concentrating on moving stuff across.
Works for me:
It’s resolved. Just stopped happening after around 4 hours. Some of my friends had the same problem, so I think it was an issue at Teams.
I don’t use the app, I just use a web browser.
I’d be interested to hear why Youtube still has a prominent dislike button. Why did they choose not to follow most other major media sites?
I do find it hilarious when you see a video with many more dislikes than likes.
From a site operations point of view, it makes it harder to establish what isn’t liked.
Is it just me who thinks it feels a little cultish? I feel alone on this one.
I’ll have to start moving the bulk of the patron-only content to the new site tomorrow. I ran out of time today.
True, but I suppose it was aiming to show the balance of votes, not a total. The pro version includes the option to show what percentage is positive and what percentage negative. Now we’ll never know how many people disagree.
Okay, the down button is gone. I should say I do like the down vote button. It avoids that forced positivity issue. With just the up button, if 10 people like a suggestion and 50 don’t like it, those 50 are forced to either say something negative (not likely if they all have the same/similar objections) or keep quiet, probably giving a false impression. I suppose the only way it can still work is if someone explains why it’s a bad idea and then the other 49 like the objection instead.
What does everyone else think about the “Dislike” button?
Would “Up Vote”/”Down Vote” be a better combo?
I think so. Good to test these things.
I’m back in but I still can’t log in with my username/password. I just get a nonsensical error saying that my device is not the correct type to run Teams.
It was working for me this morning, but when I went back around 1pm, couldn’t get in.
If the browser cache gets out of sync you either need to wait for it to expire or clear the cache. It can happen to any website.
This doesn’t hide or negatively affect posts. The votes are just cosmetic for us.
I can remove the down vote button if most people prefer that?
That sounds like a caching error with your browser. Have you tried a different browser or clearing your cache?
Until you are age-verified, posts in the age-verified forum won’t appear on the updates and you won’t even be able to see the age-verified forum.
It’s measured in KB. Less than 1 is not allowed.
As the forum appears to be set up properly now, I’m shifting my attention to moving all the nudity-featuring blog posts into the appropriate forums.
I’d prefer it if they didn’t. Especially outside the age-verified forums as it puts the site in breach of the law. I really don’t want a massive fine.
If you click “Like” it gains an up vote. If you then click down, it undoes the up vote (ie removes one point) then gives it a down vote (ie removes one point)
No, they have to read it on the post.
If you’re not logged in, you can’t vote.
The age-verified forums have photos and videos, and allow uploading by members, but the public forums cannot. This is to comply with the law.
I’ve started tidying up the blog, but there’s a lot of work left.
Everything is a LOT of work!!
We have got WNBR on the dare list but not cycling on its own.
So, is everyone mostly happy now? I kept the highlighted boxes yellow in colour, and all the others have returned to their usual white text on a black box.
I don’t understand that either.
Sadly there are options to include a timestamp (or “Freshness” they call it) just author name and post content (which doesn’t fit in this context anyway). I can also limit it to specific forums or only threads with/without replies.
For me, it links to the latest post.
Obviously, not my first choice but the yellow is acceptable to me.
Are we going with the yellow? If so, I put the lower boxes back to their normal colours.
That seems more appropriate for a forum thread than the blog.
Games like that are an interesting idea.
I’ve already done it. Feedback would be good.
I don’t think I should have this blog post and the header version too. That will cause confusion.
There is a bodge I can use to display latest forum posts in a blog post. It’s not ideal but would that do the job?
If I go with the noticeboard approach, I’ll probably switch off comments on the blog posts.
Regular updates for the blog become borderline impossible if I can’t include most photos or videos. Updates would have to be text only as there’s no way to put the blog in the age-verified area.
Those are two separate systems. I can’t combine or intermingle them.
I miss the orange too, but if some people can’t read it, it’s not good enough. I can’t have that.
It’s hard to meet the attention-grabbing requirement and be friendly too. Aren’t those things mutually exclusive?
Those boxes are supposed to be attention-grabbing. They should really stand out. That’s why I picked the bright orange colour before. I didn’t expect any problems seeing the text. My laptop has an excellent screen but my external monitor is Pantone certified. The black text on bright orange was perfectly clear on both screens. It was even clearer on my phone but that’s because the pixels are smaller on my phone and the buttons are shown oversized.
I’ll have to see how things go, and how much interest there is. I’d love to experiment more with the whole area but my hope of getting free credits through a small flow of referrals, hasn’t panned out. It seems no-one else wants to give Pollo a try.
Maybe after August, I’ll (hopefully) be able to afford a proper subscription so I get an amount of credits to work with each month. In the meantime, I’ll create some more examples.
I shouldn’t really be talking about the colour scheme of the right column boxes here as this thread is about the forum, but it would be good to get more feedback about the yellow colour. Does it work? Can you read it? Does it stand out (ie catch your attention)?
I’ve had very bad experiences with child themes and CSS is near impossible to set up if you didn’t create the original theme. I find components are never named properly so you can’t separate out what you need.
I’m not getting involved in that. It’s complicated enough as it is without the hair-tearing experience of messing with CSS.
Gary very kindly volunteered a suitable photo, so here’s a quick example of the sort of thing that can be done. And, before you ask, we can also work with full frontal nudity.
This is a first attempt and very low res as I’m trying to conserve credits. There are glitches but I’m mostly pleased with the result.
What do you think of the yellow then?
Also, does anyone else have opinions on this? I feel there should be a few more opinions on this…
That’s a level of control I don’t have. All I can pick is a colour scheme. I cannot choose individual colours (eg change the text on its own).
The rainbow isn’t good, but I’m waiting for opinions on each of the possible colour options for the highlighted boxes in the right column.
Does anyone know how much Apple is charging for our monthly membership?
I’m hoping for some comments soon as the right column looks like a rainbow mess right now.
Is the orange not considerably brighter than the black on your screen?
If it’s a problem, I’ll need to work out how to recolour all the buttons as they are matched to the orange boxes. I thought it was a nice, clear highlight colour to make certain things easy to see.
Okay, I have no control over Patron so it’s up to them to comply with the law. I’m not VAT registered so I don’t handle that anyway.
I can’t just choose colours. I can only choose between preset colour schemes. To elaborate, I cannot change individual colours, just pick a scheme which recolours the entire box.
If bright orange is too dark, I have limited options as that’s middle brightness. I’ve tried blue (same brightness level but different hue). Is that better? Personally I think it clashes.
Actually, I’ve set eight of the right column boxes to different bright colours to show the options. From top to bottom they are Blue, Lime, Crimson, Pink, Teak, Purple, Violet, Green & Purple. Ones I haven’t used yet are: Yellow, Transparent, Red and all the dark colours (brown, charcoal etc.).
The top?? I’m pretty sure we’ve never done that. It was discussed at least once but I think it was widely agreed that new posts should appear at the bottom of the thread as otherwise it feels backwards or unintuitive.
It depends how you pay. I believe that via a web browser, it is the original price. If you pay via Android or iOS it costs 30% (I think) more due to extra fees added on top by Google and Apple. The worst thing is, I don’t even get the money from them until ages later. For reasons I don’t understand, Apple holds the money in their account for 75 days before passing it on to Patreon.
My advice would be to always use a laptop or desktop computer to avoid being ripped off.
This is tricky. One of the reasons I picked orange instead of blue, green or yellow, was that it gave better contrast with the black text. The blue and green were particularly fuzzy for me. Also it needs to be something which tones in with the other colours (orange buttons etc. – which also need to vividly stand out)
I have 16 colour schemes to choose from for that panel, but it desperately needs to be something that stands out (otherwise people keep asking me to add a pane that’s already there).
Also, I was referring the forum itself. I haven’t changed the right panel colours in a couple of weeks.
The forums are threaded, so if you reply to a post, your reply should appear under that post. It helps stop the forums from descending into gibberish.
Patreon gives pretty minimal support for the WordPress plugin so I wouldn’t count on anything.
There are no server issues in the log for this site.
I can’t find anything wrong anywhere. Did anyone else have a problem?
I’m hoping it will encourage more interaction! 🙂
It could be Patreon but I’ve not heard of any problems at their end. What was the error (ie what did it say)?
What was the error message? I wasn’t even online last night.
A couple of people have suggested that it would make sense to increase the £3.50 patron price to £4.00. It sort of simplifies it but also means I can just put £4 (ie 2 characters) instead of £3.50 (5 characters).
It would, potentially, help the site cover it’s costs, but only if we don’t lose patrons because the modest price increase.
No, that you now can’t add them when editing because there’s a 1KB limit on filesize. I can’t get rid of the add option on editing as that’s a bug in the plugin, but I can reduce the filesize limit so much as to render it useless.
Does this solution work for attachments? It’s not ideal but it sort of does what we need.
If anyone can tell me how to turn on the “Bin” option, please let me know as it’s just NOT in the options.
Worst case, you can always ask me to delete a forum post.
Attachments in the age-verified areas are 2MB. Elsewhere they should not be allowed. 512KB is not specified anywhere so I’m not sure where it’s getting that from. The editing dialogue is messed up because the attachments plugin is a mess.
I can’t fix the attachments. It’s an external plugin and it’s rubbish.
And for some strange reason, it offers me to add an attachment when I edit?
Which should I get rid of, attachments or editing?
If there’s any mechanism for adding attachments in parts of the forum where they are not permitted, the site is dead. The site would become illegal.
I might have to completely remove the attachment option. It seems turning it off for individual forums doesn’t work.
If attachments continue in the non-verified forums, the whole site will have to go.
You can edit posts for fifteen minutes after you’ve posted them here. I’ve no idea how long it was on the old site.
I have no idea why there is a delete button on the old site and not on the new one. There is no option for this I can find.
I and my test user both have a “Bin” link.