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“That link won’t play for me. None of the videos on that site play in Chrome, Firefox or Edge for me.
Does the copy I posted in this forum work for everyone? I shouldn’t leave it up as it needs to be in the age-restricted area.”
I found that the link works fine for me in Firefox although the embedded video that you put didn’t work for me when I tried it the other day, which is why I googled it and found it on that other website, but now when I click play on the link that you put in this topic here now it does play fine for me.
::I googled it and I found it available at https://vk.com/video-22149811_157541050
I have to say I thought it was a very good program and I even saved it to my hard drive just in case it gets deleted. It reminds me of my own novel, the big naked social Experiment, where you have a group of people where some of them have to get naked and the others get to stay dressed. It was an interesting exploration as to why people feel uncomfortable with nudity from an evolutionary standpoint, because since we started wearing clothes it became such a part of our identity and the social contract that being stripped of your clothing automatically leaves you feeling vulnerable and sexualized, it’s a breach of the social contract so being naked makes you feel like you are sexually available to everybody or that your body is available to everybody and it sort of a deeply submissive feeling I suppose. I thought it was really interesting the part where they were scanning where people’s eyes were focusing where it does seem like people look at body shape and things of that nature to determine someone’s sexual availability, and it was also interesting that men were more attracted to women who were in the highest fertility part of their menstrual cycle. So it does suggest that there is something about nudity that is programmed into us, and it’s an unnatural state for most people, it was interesting because the people in the program, even after they became comfortable with each other after a day or two were still kind of happy to put their clothing back on because I think there’s something about nudity that just feels unnatural especially when you are in a social situation.
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“HuggingFace can remove the towel. Setting up scenes in GetImg or Qwen saves my HuggingFace credits. I find it works best to use the strengths of each.”
I have to admit I haven’t really used editing and refinement of these pictures or uploading a picture from one to another and asking it to edit the picture, I guess I’m not really especially great with this kind of stuff, generally speaking I will go to an AI image creator and give it a prompt and if it doesn’t give me what I want I will try another AI with the same prompt hoping for better results. I feel if I have a really great prompt though I will try it just in every single different AI image creators that I used just to see which results it will give me because it gives you a good variety. Although a lot of them do give very similar ones it must be said because I guess they are probably trained using similar methods.
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I think that those came out rather wellm and yes it is good that after you get initial picture you can refine it like that, but you said that it won’t do nudity so I guess she won’t lose the towel! I tried it with two pictures and they came out to be high quality but once again really large pictures that take up like a megabyte or two. But I will agree that Qwen is high quality even if it doesn’t do nudity.
::@Ed“I find Perchance is completely unpredictable, really inconsistent results. For my purposes, that renders it unusable. Huggingface gives credits daily now. Unless you pay, the free credits are only enough for 2-3 5 second clips per day.”
I heard that right now per chance is giving itself an update so that’s part of the reason why it’s being inconsistent at the moment. Sometimes the pictures come out really distorted and bizarre but they don’t seem to give you any problem about nudity is what I was kind of getting at. Hugging face I have never actually tried making videos with any of these things so far I was just using it for pictures but I guess I will have to try now because maybe they have changed their policy because I know that now getimg AI also gives you like 140 daily credits which amounts to about 28 pictures a day if each picture costs five credits where it used to give you only that many per month.
“I’ve never heard of Meta AI. I’ll give that a go. I know I tried SeaArt but it’s on the list of ones I gave up on (can’t remember why).”
Meta AI goes along with Facebook it always gives you four pictures for every prompt and they recently upgraded it so now the pictures are very high quality and artistic looking but each picture is like 2 MB which if you’re going to a lot of these takes up more room on your hard drive. Up until recently that was the one I used for most things that didn’t but now I am mostly using Getimg and Seaart. Seaart It’s pretty decent about giving nudity but sometimes it just totally excludes that but that seems to be true of most of these AI image makers. Like I tried all of these image makers to get Russian dictator looking at a naked ballet, because I want to illustrate a story I plan to write about naked ballerinas assassinating a dictator, but every time that I tried it on every single one of these AI image creators the ballerinas always kept their clothing on, I couldn’t get it to do a naked
@Ed“I find Perchance is completely unpredictable, really inconsistent results. For my purposes, that renders it unusable. Huggingface gives credits daily now. Unless you pay, the free credits are only enough for 2-3 5 second clips per day.”
I heard that right now per chance is giving itself an update so that’s part of the reason why it’s being inconsistent at the moment. Sometimes the pictures come out really distorted and bizarre but they don’t seem to give you any problem about nudity is what I was kind of getting at. Hugging face I have never actually tried making videos with any of these things so far I was just using it for pictures but I guess I will have to try now because maybe they have changed their policy because I know that now getimg AI also gives you like 140 daily credits which amounts to about 28 pictures a day if each picture costs five credits where it used to give you only that many per month.
“I’ve never heard of Meta AI. I’ll give that a go. I know I tried SeaArt but it’s on the list of ones I gave up on (can’t remember why).”
Meta AI goes along with Facebook it always gives you four pictures for every prompt and they recently upgraded it so now the pictures are very high quality and artistic looking but each picture is like 2 MB which if you’re going to a lot of these takes up more room on your hard drive. Up until recently that was the one I used for most things that didn’t but now I am mostly using Getimg and Seaart. Seaart It’s pretty decent about giving nudity but sometimes it just totally excludes that but that seems to be true of most of these AI image makers. Like I tried all of these image makers to get Russian dictator looking at a naked ballet, because I want to illustrate a story I plan to write about naked ballerinas assassinating a dictator, but every time that I tried it on every single one of these AI image creators the ballerinas always kept their clothing on, I couldn’t get it to do a naked picture.
“What I’d really like is one of the very high price accounts on Pollo.ai but I can’t afford that for now.”
I figured that most of the free ones give you so many credits per day so I have never actually tried any paid services, well that and the fact that I really don’t have much in the way of an income.
“Qwen would be incredible if it allowed nudity. It’s the most consistent by far and allows fantastic editing of pictures to correct anything which isn’t what you want without changing the rest of the photo and without having to draw mats.”
I have to admit until I heard of it in this thread I had never heard of that one before I guess I will have to look it up and give it a go then.
::I mostly use META AI, seaart, Perchance and getimgAI, I was using hugging for a while but then it said I used up all of my credits and although it says I’m supposed to get like a thousand a month usually when I go back to trying to use it I maybe use it a couple of times and then it says that I have exhausted my options more or less. I think for anything not explicit meta-a right tends to be really good except now that they have upgraded it like each picture saves like 2 MB on my hard drive and they give you for so I have tried using some of the other ones. Seaart and Perchance I think are the best if you are going to be doing nudity, but again a lot of these vary. If I have a really good concept that I like I tried putting it through all four of them!
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“I find Qwen and GetImg don’t produce extra limbs/fingers and are very good at producing anatomically correct people.
Giving the right amount of detail is the key. Try not to suggest ideas that would not have cropped up otherwise. The other thing is repetition. I find stating the same thing 2-3 times in different words tends to lock it in.
When I first got it to generate a nude woman turning around, I didn’t expect this:”
Yes random shit stains are strange. I haven’t been able to get getimg to do nudity any longer but maybe I should try again.
::I find that if you give it a very detailed prompt that is a good idea most of the time but sometimes the more detailed you are the more likely it is to get confused. My main issue is I still often get a lot of images where they look good on the surface but if you look more carefully people have extra fingers and toes and maybe a couple of extra limbs here and there. Again every AI image creators different, which is why if you have a particular thing you are looking for it might pay to give one prompt to several different AI image makers. Like one that I tried making the other day that didn’t have any nudity involved was I just wanted a picture of an Asian woman getting her back scratched by a kitten, in three out of the four pictures it resulted in her scratching the kittens back when I really wanted it the other way around. So yeah AI can be unpredictable, sometimes it feels like AI has practically read my mind and other times it’s like where the hell did this go so horribly wrong?!
::I wonder if anyone has noticed but I tried illustrating one of my naked stories today using the get image AI website and although it looks like it now gives you daily credits instead of monthly ones, but every time I try to make a nude picture it said restricted content try a different prompt. On the other hand I finally found that hugging faces working again but it doesn’t always give you naked even when you ask for naked. How about everyone else?
::@Ed“I haven’t tried it recently, but I’ve been told Perchance took a major step backwards in quality last year. I suspected they turned down the processing available for each prompt.
I haven’t found any AIs are any good for writing fiction. You see phrase patterns, odd grammar and poor descriptive word choices, repeated over and over. Any experienced writer will spot them very quickly, and that’s before the continuity errors and poor understanding of physics and hierarchies (He removed his hat, revealing his T-shirt etc.).
All of the ones I’ve tried are better now than last year, BUT there is a storm coming. A lot of the stuff they are learning from is AI generated, so these mistakes and faults are being fed back into the system. This is a feedback loop of junk in the system and I can’t see how it won’t just cause it all to deteriorate again.”
I only started using this in the last month or two and I find it helps me to write more quickly but you are right there are certain errors. Also it uses the same names for characters over and over again if you don’t specify character names when you start the story. I am like dear Lord there are more names for women than Jenny and Rachel, and more mail names than Mark, Larry and Alex. So it does have a lot of repetition so those are things that you often have to correct. You are right they do tend to use certain phrases over and over again, and they do tend to make errors like despite the fact that is established that my character is naked they end up adjusting their clothing. So you have to be careful and make sure to catch these errors and correct them right away.
I like I said it sometimes seems to try and move things towards a reasonable conclusion like everyone was happy and they resolve this etc. etc. where my stories tend on the Darkside of things so it’s like yeah some of the stuff that it keeps going towards gets a little bit repetitive. And it’s also true that when you are trying to end the story and tell you specif
@Ed“I haven’t tried it recently, but I’ve been told Perchance took a major step backwards in quality last year. I suspected they turned down the processing available for each prompt.
I haven’t found any AIs are any good for writing fiction. You see phrase patterns, odd grammar and poor descriptive word choices, repeated over and over. Any experienced writer will spot them very quickly, and that’s before the continuity errors and poor understanding of physics and hierarchies (He removed his hat, revealing his T-shirt etc.).
All of the ones I’ve tried are better now than last year, BUT there is a storm coming. A lot of the stuff they are learning from is AI generated, so these mistakes and faults are being fed back into the system. This is a feedback loop of junk in the system and I can’t see how it won’t just cause it all to deteriorate again.”
I only started using this in the last month or two and I find it helps me to write more quickly but you are right there are certain errors. Also it uses the same names for characters over and over again if you don’t specify character names when you start the story. I am like dear Lord there are more names for women than Jenny and Rachel, and more mail names than Mark, Larry and Alex. So it does have a lot of repetition so those are things that you often have to correct. You are right they do tend to use certain phrases over and over again, and they do tend to make errors like despite the fact that is established that my character is naked they end up adjusting their clothing. So you have to be careful and make sure to catch these errors and correct them right away.
I like I said it sometimes seems to try and move things towards a reasonable conclusion like everyone was happy and they resolve this etc. etc. where my stories tend on the Darkside of things so it’s like yeah some of the stuff that it keeps going towards gets a little bit repetitive. And it’s also true that when you are trying to end the story and tell you specifically I wanted to end like this it just keeps trying to perpetually continue the story pretty much endlessly so you basically just have to decide where to end it more or less because otherwise it will just keep going forever. Truthfully told though this is one reason why I have ended up writing a lot more lately because you can keep the story going a lot longer if you keep giving it prompts after prompt, so now it’s actually not uncommon for me to write like a novelette like last night I like 16,200 words novelette in a couple of hours which is pretty damn impressive because you can keep making the story keep going and going.
But I can see your point of AI is learning from the same mistakes it’s feeding back those same mistakes into the system. But I do suspect that things are getting better overall with time and even the people working with AI seem to be suggesting that in another year or two it’s going to be exponentially better and in 10 years it will probably be astonishing. I have a large degree of faith in technology and now in sort of the early age of this so there are lots of kinks to be worked out but I do think that overall things are getting better with time, even if AI does sometimes make some really amateur kind of mistakes.
::I did find one other issue with the perchance story writer is that when I am writing naked stories sometimes it seems to forget the detail of the fact that the character is naked because I will have a character who is naked and then all of a sudden it will say that they were adjusting their clothing which they couldn’t do if they were naked! So it does sometimes make mistakes like that so you have to really watch carefully when you are doing these to make sure you catch and correct any errors that it might make. When you are using AI for anything I think you have to carefully edit and examine it after the fact because AI does still make a lot of errors that you might not always catch right off the bat, sometimes they can be fairly subtle like that.
::@Ed“In terms of getting what you specify. Some are better than others. A few of the ones which do not permit nudity are very accurate on numbers, genders, ages etc.”
I agree, the one that I use most is meta AI because unlike a lot of AI’s it seems to realize that people don’t have six fingers and three legs! A lot of the ones that do allow erotic imagery tend to be more likely to make those errors, like something will seem fine but then on closer examination when I was illustrating one of my stories somebody pointed out why does the woman have three arms and I didn’t even realize that until somebody pointed it out!
so yeah if it’s not for anything explicit I tend to just use meta, when it comes to stuff that might include nudity I use the getimg.AI website that I think you told me about in the first place but that one now they have reduced the number of pictures you have per month where it used to be like you could get like 100 now you get 140 but each picture cost you five credits so that really brings it down to like less than 30 pictures a month. One that I use more often now is Seaart which gives you 130 credits a day and each picture will cost you may be like six credits. I think increasingly for erotic content that that one is the best one but I find it almost none of the ones that I have used will do male nudity, they will almost always put pants on the man, which is why when I illustrate my nudity stories stories about female nudity get lots of illustrations but male nudity I don’t usually get many good illustrations.
I do find though that the more complex instructions you give them the more mistakes they tend to make and you are right that almost all AI seems not to be very good with counting where I will tell it to give me an image with two men and two women and it will give me several images one with three men and one woman, one with all men, one with all women or something like that so it really gives you exactly what you want. Basically every tim
@Ed“In terms of getting what you specify. Some are better than others. A few of the ones which do not permit nudity are very accurate on numbers, genders, ages etc.”
I agree, the one that I use most is meta AI because unlike a lot of AI’s it seems to realize that people don’t have six fingers and three legs! A lot of the ones that do allow erotic imagery tend to be more likely to make those errors, like something will seem fine but then on closer examination when I was illustrating one of my stories somebody pointed out why does the woman have three arms and I didn’t even realize that until somebody pointed it out!
so yeah if it’s not for anything explicit I tend to just use meta, when it comes to stuff that might include nudity I use the getimg.AI website that I think you told me about in the first place but that one now they have reduced the number of pictures you have per month where it used to be like you could get like 100 now you get 140 but each picture cost you five credits so that really brings it down to like less than 30 pictures a month. One that I use more often now is Seaart which gives you 130 credits a day and each picture will cost you may be like six credits. I think increasingly for erotic content that that one is the best one but I find it almost none of the ones that I have used will do male nudity, they will almost always put pants on the man, which is why when I illustrate my nudity stories stories about female nudity get lots of illustrations but male nudity I don’t usually get many good illustrations.
I do find though that the more complex instructions you give them the more mistakes they tend to make and you are right that almost all AI seems not to be very good with counting where I will tell it to give me an image with two men and two women and it will give me several images one with three men and one woman, one with all men, one with all women or something like that so it really gives you exactly what you want. Basically every time you use AI you’re just kind of hoping that you’ll get something resembling what you want but it’s pretty much all just a matter of luck honestly. But it’s true that AI doesn’t seem to know a lot about basic human anatomy and does get proportions and numbers wrong very frequently.
“The biggest thing is the rate of progress. Give it another 2-3 years and what we’re seeing now will be completely left behind. One thing they really can’t do is write prose. Writing at the level of producing notes or creating an e-mail is pretty good, but when it comes to literature, not even close yet.”
I used to think that but recently I have been using https://perchance.org/ai-story-generator which I have been using to write all of my stories lately or most of them anyway and I have to say it’s honestly pretty good. And it has skyrocketed my creative productivity because if I give it like a few sentences of prompts it will literally give me paragraphs within a few seconds. Sometimes it doesn’t always give me what I want, but again you can change it and you can erase anything that you don’t like, but one of the problems is that I still think a lot of these AI story writers try to guide you towards some kind of reasonable conclusion or some kind of decent conclusion.
For example when I use them to write stories involving nudity I will have the character being stuck naked out in public and you basically want them to keep staying naked for the story but the story AI will start guiding you saying oh looking found some clothing that somebody discarded on the road and then I have to erase that and specify they keep looking but they do not find any clothing anywhere. So I find you very often have to correct it, but once you start to correct it it starts to behave I guess a little bit more and give you what you want. Is it perfect? No but it really is making my productivity practically double, I mean now I’m sort of having like many novels almost every night in a way that I wouldn’t be able to do if I were just writing it all myself. Again it still gives you the story that you want largely because you are telling it exactly what is happening in explicit detail, it may not use the same words that I would use, and once again I still think it tries to be a little bit more reasonable (which when you are writing erotica or political satire can be frustrating) and I think tries to make the characters sort of like decent, not monstrous. And I write a lot of science fiction and I think that sometimes when you are imagining something that has never been thought of before AI is not going to give you exactly what you want because you are trying to describe something that it has no knowledge of, but it can be surprisingly adept at putting in lots of detail.
For example when it comes to writing stories with a historical setting, using historical characters, or alternate history where you alter history, it puts in a lot of historical details and information that I might not have otherwise known or that I might not have thought to put in there. So yeah I mean it’s not perfect but it’s definitely getting better with time and I am actually fairly impressed with this particular one, which to be fair is the only one I have ever really used. I tried using meta-a where it will give you maybe a 300 word story at best it’s more like a plot description and another one that would be pretty similar but this is one that I have been writing literally novelette length stories in a single sitting which is just very impressive. Like last month I wrote seven full novelettes all in the same month, whereas in my entire literary career I probably wrote maybe a dozen novelettes previously. So it’s like a pretty significant difference to say the least. If anybody else has any new AI story writers or image and video makers I am generally willing to give all them a try because there’s a good variety out there. I think you just kind of have to keep looking until you find one that you like.
::Thanks, I changed my username to Arthur, although presumably that shouldn’t change my Google name just my name on this board. It gets kind of confusing because I have two pseudonyms, one is Arthur, one is Jill, neither of which is my real name, and even my Arthur blog where I write my embarrassing nudity stories, is registered under my Google account which is for Jill, so sometimes it does get kind of confusing where I have to remember who am I where. It got kind of awkward once when my family was helping me to like use my phone or set up my phone, and when it saw that it was linked to my Google account they were like who is Jill, so it gets kind of weird sometimes!
::I don’t think that nudity has to be naughty or sexual but for most people it is and that’s what makes it exciting, like I’ve said before if people were comfortable with nudity where would be the fun in being naked?!
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