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To help promote the site and quickly explain what it’s about, especially to mobile users, I’ve used what I learned from the Flicking Channels videos to make a brief TV commercial-style video and posted it in the blog on the main page.
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That’s a great promotion. It’s exactly what we could have done with when the new site opened. Lets hope it will catch the attention of new visitors as well as earlier established visitors that continue to visit occasionally.
Unlike the other videos, it’s missing the “not real people” comment at the end. Was that an oversight, or is it less relevant here than in other places?
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Essentially I forgot to add it. But I’m not sure it would help the advertising effect of the video and there’s no requirement to label it on most platforms. It was just something I decided to do.
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Very, very clever! 👍
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I wish I could claim credit but about 98% of the effort is external. I just craft the prompts and put the results together in my video editor. When I’m let loose again with one that supports unrestricted nudity, MANY things will become possible.
I’m hoping to use what’s available in the meantime to drastically increase community membership so I can ultimately raise enough money to buy a month or two of credits to do more extravagant (and naked) projects.
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Maybe I should come up with some potential projects and find out from community members which are the most popular ideas?
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I think I would struggle to faithfully follow a story which hasn’t been structured to fit with the video generation workflow. Also, male nudity is particularly expensive on credits (about 8x I reckon).
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I was half-joking! But I know it would have been a challenge, for many reasons. And an AI-generated video couldn’t possibly match my memory of the incident, even after all these years! But I am enjoying all the videos you’re making! Very much in fact!
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That’s good to hear. Thanks!
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I should upload the next two “Flicking Channels” videos and I’ve got a NSFW version too, if anyone’s interested?
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Yes! 👍
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I’ve uploaded the next one (on the Flicking Channels page.) The NSFW one is going to need a new page in the age-restricted area. There isn’t a lot of nudity in it, but too much for the public area.
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I’m wondering how much nudity would be acceptible in the NSFW variant of these videos?
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I think it should be “whatever fits the story most accurately”.
Some stories will only make proper sense if one or more characters are naked from the beginning. Others it would be more appropriate in the closing moments.
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The Flicking Channels videos don’t really have a story (but they do have some recurring themes), so it’s less obvious with those.
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Here’s the second version:
If I had a proper budget, I could do this SO much better. Working in FullHD (for the original clips and images) would enhance the finished image quality hugely and make it much harder to tell it’s generated and not real. I think I’m getting better at scripting the acting of the people but I could SO much more with a budget. I’d love to have a go at producing a generated recreation of one of the real life experiments but doing it the way I’m working now would probably take months.
Anyway, what do you think of what I’ve got so far?
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Better? Worse?
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Any opinions at all?
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I’m doing a range of things to increase the number of visitors to this community and the first promo video seemed to cause an upward bump in the figures. I probably shouldn’t be so lacking in confidence that the new one is both better and doesn’t require any changes. I’ll try it instead of the first one.
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My $0.02
The promo videos are excellent and look so real. I wouldn’t know where to start and have no aptitude for this kind of thing, so good job.
If you’re after feedback, the only thing that grates with me a bit are some of the girls’ voices when they say they want to get “nay-kid” but a minor criticism.
But as adverts for the site I’d say well done that man! 👏👏👏
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If I used the word “naked” in the script, it increases the chance of being “moderated” hugely. The silly thing is the AI is fully aware of what I’m trying to get the “actors” to say but there seems to be some sort of simply keyword filter which doesn’t get it. The moderation is clearly a multi-level filter system.
What’s amazing is that sometimes the clip I’m prompting doesn’t include any problem words or obscured nudity and the AI produces full frontal nudity. It’s rare, but it happens. The filters are not very accurate.
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Is the “Naked” pronunciation problem getting better in more recent videos?
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Yes, the videos get better every time. The voices are a little over-excited at times but they’re probably not controllable to that degree and we certainly wouldn’t want them to sound bored.
I’ve tried a few experiments with audio and sometimes have to invent spelling to improve the diction. For instance, clothing might have to be spelled clo ving to avoid it coming out as cloffing.
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I find it’s worth clearly stating the accent you want (probably for each speaker separately). I usually end up defining everything. Leaving anything to chance more often than not produces random nonsense. One thing I’ve found almost impossible is having characters where one has one accent and the other one has another. The only way to do it seems to be separate clips using the final frame of one as the start of the next.
Voice intonation is hard to control, and not consistent. Also, when you’ve been trying to get a motion to work over 6-8 tries and when it finally works, the speech isn’t quite perfect, unless it’s unacceptable, I’m not going to keep trying.
I’m hoping to have the first NSFW Flicking Channels video ready later today. I should stress it won’t be full-on nudity (which is where I’m aiming to go) but the clips where there is unintentional nudity (where the AI made a mistake), such as missing clothing, nip-slips etc. There will be occasional full-frontal nudity in them but not a lot.
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The other thing is we really ought to persuade the woman in the pink top who comes here every day to actually post something otherwise she can’t possibly be real.
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That sounds like a good plan! 🙂
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Have I missed anything out from the latest promo video?
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Real people talking about real experiences..
Have you tried.to get some blurred people on teams to talk about an experience. Maybe try and get a couple of people in a room together to really show off the ideas.
I’m not sure about all the ai generated content it wasn’t what first brought me here..id prefer to see real people talking about an experience and maybe stripping off a bit.
Seems to be lot of focus recently on how to get a good ai video and not a lot of real life experience content.
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One thing I have learned from many years of experience is that men do not sell the site. I need a minimum 50/50 split of female to male.
Another thing I’ve learned from experience, using real people is a nightmare. If I use three people (assuming I could get three volunteers in the first place) then within 12 months one of them would be demanding I cut their section from the video.
I’m stuck in a vicious circle here. The site desperately needs more people to be viable. These videos seem to have roughly doubled our visitors lately (it’s hard to be sure as I’m also pursuing 4-5 other promotion methods too). None of the current female members are willing to appear in videos/photos anyway. If I produce a video of just men talking, it simply will not work.
I’ve closed almost all my other sites in the past few months. I’m seriously considering shutting everything down and giving up.
The only reason there seems to be a focus on the generated videos is that nothing else gets much interaction. I try to start something like 10 conversations a week in the forums. Most of those are just me, nobody else joins in. I get no comments on most of the naked videos I post, and they rarely trigger a conversation. I’ve been trying not to post AMOC and SGC content (which I have a HUGE amount of) because I don’t think it suits the site any longer. If anyone posts in the forums, I try to reply, but it feels like no matter what I do, the momentum just isn’t there any more.
Building the Master Dare List has been a massive job (and still is) but it’s hard to be enthusiastic when I can’t see any interest in it. My main focus is the experiments (more coming soon) and getting more people to find the site. I stopped posting generated videos in the forums a couple of weeks ago, but now activity in the forums has dropped off a cliff too.
I’ve tried getting some sort of discussion going about how to handle the MDL, but no-one’s interested. I tried discussions on si
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If anyone knows how to get real women talking about their experiences on video, please let me know. I haven’t found a single woman so far who is willing to have photos/videos published, even with a face blurred.
Also, blurred face videos are much less effective at attracting attention.
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Closing down the site? Who could blame you. I have no idea of how much effort is required to keep NE going…I’m assuming it’s hours per day, 7 days a week. And as far as I can see, you’re trying to please all the people, all the time. The AI promo vids are excellent at advertising what’s possible in the site. And I think they’re really clever, very convincing.
As I’ve said before, there used to be much more interaction on the old site, and I’ve had two or three guises here in the years since I first found the site and it used to be much more fun. What changed? Legislation? The change to the new server?
I deleted my accounts for various reasons, but I’m here and trying to support the site, even if just with regular comments and “likes”
Good luck Ed!
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I get it might be soul destroying when theres no activity. Kind of why I signed back up to add a recent story. Try and see.if there were any active people wanting to read real experiences
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Not really. That’s why I’m focusing my efforts on getting people to visit the site.
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Always interested in your stories!
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One more thing, is humour a good thing for this? (like the failed cartwheel)
I don’t know if it makes it more memorable and engaging or just detracts from the key message?
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I liked the cartwheel! 😁. If she could be naked next time, that’d be great! 😉😜
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The experiments.part of this site was meant to be about being outside your comfort zone. Trying something different. That could be quite intense, I think showing a lighter side to it where it could be seen a bit of light hearted fun moments breaking up what might be quite intense otherwise is probably a good thing.
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I agree!! 👍👍👍
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