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I don’t know what others do, but I tend to leave the page open on chrome, and log in when I go back to the page.
Patreon logs you out if you leave the page, and if you are on a long thread, it’s a big scroll to get to the log in.
I liked the latest posts at the top, and I think there’s a case for the Patreon log in to be at the top too.
Perhaps a subtle change?
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Or a simple “jump to bottom of page” button?
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Good idea, but I have NO idea how to implement that. It’s not an option with the theme.
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@john @patreon_163722564
If you’re on a mobile, you could maybe try bookmarking a link to https://nakedexperiment.com/wp-login.php
If you do that, the login form is the only thing on the page, and therefore it’s prominently visible even on mobile.
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@john @patreon_163722564
“I liked the latest posts at the top”
After logging in on the login link above, the next page is the home page, which doesn’t look too bad even in mobile. The list of Latest Forum Posts is then a lot nearer the top than on other pages.
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I can only really fit the menu OR the updates list at the top. Putting both there messes up the layout.
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It shouldn’t log you out. The login should last 28 days.
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@ed: ” The login should last 28 days.”
As far as I can see:
- our login to Patreon lasts many days
- but the login to Naked Experiment ends as soon as we close the browser
- so next time we revisit an NE page in a freshly opened browser, we are not initially logged in to NE but are still logged in to Patreon
- in order to use NE (other than in a read-only manner) it’s necessary to click the Log in with Patreon button (and to allow patreon to authorise the login) and only then do we become logged in to NE again.
Are you sure the login to Naked Experiment should last 28 days? I think perhaps you’re looking at a setting that doesn’t apply to the Via Patreon login.
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Both my account and my Patreon test account stay logged in indefinitely. There’s no settings in patreon for login duration, but WordPress is set to 28 days.
To be honest, I’m on the verge of giving up. I can’t get the age-verification system and Patreon system to work nicely together. The existence of both is confusing for visitors to the site. I’m now having problems with the connection between Patreon and this site. I’ve done SO much work trying to make a layout that works on computers AND on mobile devices but everything seems to be a fudged compromise and causing upset all round.
I’m already way behind schedule and unlikely to finish moving stuff over in time and patrons are deserting the site anyway. There’s no way I can transfer the MDL results before the deadline so I’ll probably end up with hundreds of broken links.
I’m finding it hard to stay positive. Right now I’m working for a tiny fraction of minimum wage. It’s definitely reminded me why, after the last site rebuild, I said I wouldn’t do it again (and that was without a deadline).
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I think patreon lets me stay logged in for about 48 hours normally. I leave the site open in my mobile browser rather than closing it and check in a few times throughout the day.
The problem with WordPress template sites is that people tend to build them with one form factor in mind and don’t care about others.
WordPress makes it simple to set up a basic blog/forum site but it still needs a lot of work to make anything even slightly more complicated. I don’t envy your task right now but I am greatful you are doing it!
Maybe instead of copying the mdl list let people downloads their photos and re submit them if they want to that way you start fresh and only the people who want to remain on the list will be there.
You could also if the photos are all in a folder just run a quick script on the folder to download all the photos to your hard drive and then re upload them later.
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I understand your frustration and can see that it’s a huge undertaking. You have done well to achieve what you have so far.
I’m sure there ought to be a solution to the mobile log-in problem that John and Jesse are reporting —
- There already exists a page https://nakedexperiment.com/wp-login.php
- That page seems to work … it logs me in (via Patreon) and takes me to the home page
- But there is no login link in the header or the main menu to take the user to that page
Making the login easy for mobile users is pretty important, considering that the vast majority of visits will be from mobiles not from desktops. If mobile users can’t easily log in, that would explain why the less-dedicated people aren’t coming back.
Is there no way that you can put a login link somewhere in the site header, or on in main menu? But it needs to be somewhere in that top block to be sure it’s visible to mobile users.
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I can add the login page link to the top but it’s an unbranded page and the link won’t change to show you are logged it (ie. even after you’ve successfully logged it, it will still show “Log In” instead of “Log Out”. In my experience, that adds another big point of confusion.
I’m still looking into it.
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There’s a possible example near the bottom of https://developer.wordpress.org/reference/functions/is_user_logged_in/
I tried pasting it here, but it looked corrupted, so best to look at the example (kakashi-hatake) in the above page.
I don’t normally use either wordpress or php so I can’t vouch for it, or know whether it will work with the rest of the site, though the example looks fairly logical.
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I don’t think it’s possible to post PHP code in a menu?
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Not quite, because there’s nowhere to put the code within the menu itself. But it seems to be possible by a slightly different method (which I have working on a dummy site at https://bbp.opnsrcevents.com with user=testUser and password=testPass).
So what I did there was to add two links (one for Login as Member with a css class of linkLogin, one for Logout with class of linkLogout) to the menu and then use a script outside the menu to hide the unwanted link at load time.
Actually I used javascript, because it would have taken me a lot longer to work out how to code it in PHP. The actual code:
<script>addEventListener(“load”, setLogLinks);
function setLogLinks()
{
var isLoggedIn = document.body.classList.contains(‘logged-in’);
document.getElementsByClassName(“linkLogin”)[0].style.display = isLoggedIn ? “none” : “flex”;
document.getElementsByClassName(“linkLogout”)[0].style.display = isLoggedIn ? “flex” : “none”;
}
</script>I found a plugin WPcode which allows javascript (or PHP) to be embedded in various places of the web page. It adds a header and footer link on the WP dashboard and the code is best put in the header.
If that seems useful, I’ll write it up properly on a PDF page which is less likely to mangle the code and can include screenshots.
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I can’t believe I used to understand that kind of thing 😂
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Paradoxically, the demo doesn’t work on mobile 🙂
Here’s another which does … https://bbp2.opnsrcevents.com/wordpress/ … click the hamburger to see the menu.
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That would be great, thank you! I’ve installed the plugin and (so far) it doesn’t appear to clash with all the other plugins.
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